As far as I'm concerned, goth's not making a comeback... ....it never left. :]

well....it has changed to Emo now. trust me, Goths are better.

I went goth by 3rd grade. Still goth jut a bit more soffisticated.

EMOS RULE!

Emo's do not rule they slit themselfs

Goth is a very beautiful way of life... i never really considered myself goth though i just have that kind of mind frame

emo is just a fashion trend... goth is a way of life

Honestly, saying that they all cut themselves is a generalisation, and just glorifies the trend even more. I'm sure alot of us alternatives went through a whiny 'I cut myself because it's how I deal with it' phase! I know I did as a teenager, I just kept it hidden, opposed to doing to show my friends the 'cool' scars. Not that I'm saying I like Emos, I just tolerate them. Besides, I think it's 'Scene' that's in fashion now, right?

I don't think everyone went through the 'I cut with it because its how I deal with it' phase. I certainly didn't, I think saying that is a generalisation there. But yes, I do agree on the last part, I've seen alot of 'Scene' kids around. They're just a more colourful version of emo if you ask me.

kass--so true!! Goth will never go out, and they aren't cutters!! Scene is just a trend, but I kinda like them too.

Goths are awesome. Always have been, always will be.

goths are a ugly style its a way for people who have mentiel problems because of how they are treated in school to deal or show off its a style like any other thats only ment to make them look cool its made like any other fashion style and is a useless way to live thinking u have to dress like friends in order to impress or fit in somewhere

goth is gay

so is emo

Well, super and kk, I am not into goth style myself, but at least the people here that are pro-goth are literate. From your combined posts, I have to assume you each have only a sixth grade reading level... at most.

Goths are amazing (: i admire them. i'm probably too bogan to go goth though unfortunatly. and emo isn't really a style it's for attention seeking masochistic losers. Goth is better than emo's and scene kids (:

Yeah, puppets, I agree. Emo and scene are justs fads; goth is a way of life. I am one.

how can you people say goth is gay, ive been goth for about 6 or 7 years now and i prefer it to all the other trends out there, it is a way of life, it is not a sin to be different everyone has a right in what style they choose but its obvious that the scene kids, emo, chav ect has taken over and it just sounds like goth is the thing of the past, i resent that phase as i'll always be goth no matter what trend comes next, its always gonna be a form of individuality.

If you have to label yourself a "Goth" nowadays, then trust me, you are not a real one. Some of us were around in the 80's when the scene started. Now you are walking advertisements for Hot Topic...yes, you! No one can spell on here either btw, so STAY IN SCHOOL & STOP CUTTING IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DO! Come on, stop hating on each other - they're just labels - just do you & !@#* the rest of them. Who can name some actual Goth bands from when it was real? Not Bauhaus & The Cure - get creative & don't Google them! You babies are soooo cute!

im a goth freshman and trust me, there arent many legit goths left. emo is for posers with emotional damage. scene is just bubbly girls trying to seem more interesting. goths arent cutters. goths dont chill at hot topic. goths are straight. goths rule!

I agree with so much that has been said by the older posters here. If you label yourself as a goth and you're under 40, you probably are not a real goth. I consider myself to have started liking darker/goth music too late to be authentic and that was like 1989...the ship sailed long ago on real goths, and you don't shop at Hot Topic if there's a single "goth" cell in your body!

Goth is great and never fade out. It's an attitude rather than just a fad. By the way, most of the goths are nice, polite and literate; they don't jabber with the "drinking-the-kool-aid" haters, because it'd be rather pointless.

I'm 38 and have and will always be Goth,it's great to see that it's still going strong,just wish someof the people my age would grow up and stop attacking and down playing younger goths and the current scene..(hint hint Victoria )-

i love being goth my mom was goth too and im in love with gothic art and clay animations as in timburton films and i love it cuz im comfertable with it and i grew up that way

theres much to say about all these comments on here but the truth is if your goth your goth if your not your not and honestly most of the fakes on here can bearly describe what a goth is the cure is a goth band and billy idol most famouse but i dont consider myself a goth either i consider myself a kid in the dark yes im 17 but i know much about this trend and i love the trend from dracula and cemmetaries-romantic goth to mohawks and stud belts-new wave to platforms and bright colors-cyber goths to all of the above dont get me started yes young people still know much about goths and i love this trend so old folks talk to me when you have some common since please.....

I heard the term goth used in the early 90's. I don't remember the use before. When I was little in the early 80's I was sure I was punk, but as time went on and I was wearing all black and very different clothing, not to mention very different tastes in music, by the mid to late 80's I noticed I was very different. But I still didn't hear the term goth and I had no clue there were others out there. By early to mid 90's I first saw Hot Topic and noticed my look was getting common and I was being labeled. But no one knew what I was talking about when it came to new wave, dark wave etc music.

I hate the stereotyping and the labeling. But I do love my Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy!

Cinema Strange? Alien Sex Fiend? Have I passed the test, Victoria? Are these bands "real" goth enough for you?

Does it really matter where you shop if you are Goth? And the music, what right do those older "goths" have to judge based on what we listen to? It is quite annoying to have people say that we are or are not Goth based on how we dress, where we shop, what music we listen to. And seriously, if you do not like Goths, it would be great if you kept your complaints and opinions to yourself rather than saying "Oh, you listen to Bauhaus and Alien Sex Fiend? You really call yourself Goth?" And, A, I agree with you. I may not like all Goth songs out there, but I sure as hell know what I like.

From the age of 15 (im 47 now) i would only wear black hair nails included black backcombed hair studded wrist bands loads of bangles.we made a lot of our outfits and loved jumble sales were we would get lots of ideas and outfits from .i wore little black pointed boots and l black skirts usually with another one over it slightly shorter i miss those days...

Just because you weren't there in the 80s, does not mean you cannot be Goth. Nor does saying you are Goth automatically mean you aren't. If you have been in the scene as long as you say you have been, then you should know that plenty of people who were in the scene in the 80s and still support Goth Rock, Death rock, Darkwave, Coldwave, etc., still call themselves Goth like Martin Oldgoth. You act like Goth is a dead subculture/music scene when the fact is that it is not. Yes, there are a lot of people that mislabel themselves, their bands, club nights, etc., as Goth and a lot of younger people who don't know what it is, whether they think it's Hot Topic and Cradle of Filth or going to Dracula's Ball and listening to Covenant and Combichrist. I was born in 1986, but you know what? I know what Goth is, I have been a huge fan of the genre since middle school, and have been involved in the scene for years. And by the way besides Bauhaus and the Cure, I listen to Memento Mori UK, Benediction UK, The Veil (the 80s band, not the newer metal band), Corpus Delicti, Medicine Rain, The Merry Thoughts, The Drowning Season (a Baltimore Goth band), Raven Adore, Solemn Novena, The Spiritual Bats, Nemesisters (Philly band similar to Christian Death), The Frozen Autumn, Sleeping Children, Scarlet's Remains, This Fear, Trivalia (Yes, I am aware they tried to be more like Front 242 later on, but their earlier stuff was Goth Rock), Capital Hell, Death in Venice, Thelema, The Justice League of America, Le vene di lucretia, Another Species, Masquerade, X-mal Deutschland, 13th Chime, Ex-Voto, The Awakening, Clan of Xymox, Dead Souls Rising, Arc Gotic, And Also The Trees, Modern English's first album was post punk/Goth, after dusk, the Unseen Chains, Elusive, Rhombus, Strap On Halo, The Stompcrash, All About Eve, The Council of Days, Last dusk, All Living Fear, The Ancestry, Altar De Fey, Desire (Swe), Caifanes, Draconian Incubus, Screaming Dead, Red Sun Revival, etc., And by the way while I prefer thrift stores or DIY, Hot Topic has had the occasional okay item. A few chokers or a pair of gloves from there are fine. They have also sold Siouxsie and the Banshees and Bauhaus tshirts there. Goths are fans of Goth Rock, not being around in the 80s or calling yourself a Goth, or even buying a pair of lace gloves from Hot Topic, does not change whether or not you love the music.

I am 39 and am goth and have been, in every sense of the word. Goth isn't just music, clothes and/or where you shop. It's an attitude and a way of life. My 17 year old is also goth. You can be goth at any age. Emo and scene isn't the same. It's just a subculture goth. When all of those subcultures die away, goth shall remain. I don't care what age you are, if you believe your goth, chances are, you are. Goth is about escaping the bullying, yet there seems to be a lot going on here. STOP!

A true goth wouldn't even involve themselves in this silly discussion, so that's all I will say.

I love Xmal Deutschland!

Goth to me has always been more than just music and a style of dress. It was finding beauty in everything... even the darkness.

Goths dancing is funny and makes me laugh I miss the 80s back when covid didn't kill the entire dance scene and the goth boys didn't take hormones